Comments on: Personal power systems via micro fuel cells might be the most disruptive idea for the future of energy! http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/ Professional Futurist / Strategist / Forecaster Wed, 11 Aug 2010 17:34:01 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Garry Golden http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-1091 Garry Golden Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:01:13 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-1091 Thanks for the note Bill.... I am a big fan of Neah and am glad to hear of their progress and march towards larger market applications! Thanks for the note Bill….
I am a big fan of Neah and am glad to hear of their progress and march towards larger market applications!

]]> By: Bill Kemp http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-1082 Bill Kemp Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:15:13 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-1082 Good article Garry, you are right, the mass market doesn't see how disruptive this technology is going to be. Check out Neah Power Systems, they are going for 3rd world power needs plus military contracts http://www.neahpower.com/ Good article Garry, you are right, the mass market doesn’t see how disruptive this technology is going to be.
Check out Neah Power Systems, they are going for 3rd world power needs plus military contracts
http://www.neahpower.com/

]]> By: Bloom Energy CEO Interview Focuses on Future of Fuel Cell Energy http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-488 Bloom Energy CEO Interview Focuses on Future of Fuel Cell Energy Thu, 25 Feb 2010 17:10:37 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-488 [...] and remains a viable 21st century platform for cost effective and clean energy applications for portable power (micro- and transportation) and stationary electricity [...] [...] and remains a viable 21st century platform for cost effective and clean energy applications for portable power (micro- and transportation) and stationary electricity [...]

]]> By: Garry Golden http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-443 Garry Golden Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:49:51 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-443 Patrick Prices on micro fuel cells vary based on the application. Generally speaking most industrial targeted units are sold in bulk to clients that have fleet demand for portable power (e.g. military, telecommunication companies, filmmakers) You don't see these on the consumer market level. Portable fuel cells designed to recharge phone batteries (yes, ironic) are just coming to market now. But again we are still first generation- and I suspect it will be 2013-2017 before affordable units hit the retail shelves. We could certainly see them sooner- but I don't want to be accused of over hyping a product line!! This is a leap in energy system paradigms - so we should expect a slow roll out with first and second generation products! Installing something like the Bloom Box in a house is different from portable fuel cells. Based on the press conversations - $3,000 seems to be the target for their onsite power generation solution. Again, that price should drop in the years ahead! The vision is retail environment based sales of energy appliances. we're not there- but it is important to understand the vision!! Patrick
Prices on micro fuel cells vary based on the application. Generally speaking most industrial targeted units are sold in bulk to clients that have fleet demand for portable power (e.g. military, telecommunication companies, filmmakers) You don’t see these on the consumer market level. Portable fuel cells designed to recharge phone batteries (yes, ironic) are just coming to market now. But again we are still first generation- and I suspect it will be 2013-2017 before affordable units hit the retail shelves. We could certainly see them sooner- but I don’t want to be accused of over hyping a product line!! This is a leap in energy system paradigms – so we should expect a slow roll out with first and second generation products! Installing something like the Bloom Box in a house is different from portable fuel cells. Based on the press conversations – $3,000 seems to be the target for their onsite power generation solution. Again, that price should drop in the years ahead! The vision is retail environment based sales of energy appliances. we’re not there- but it is important to understand the vision!!

]]> By: Patrick Sejut http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-440 Patrick Sejut Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:11:27 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-440 How Much would it coast to put a system in to a home in NY? How Much would it coast to put a system in to a home in NY?

]]> By: Bloom Box and the Very Disruptive Future of Distributed Energy [Video] http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-429 Bloom Box and the Very Disruptive Future of Distributed Energy [Video] Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:46:50 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-429 [...] http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/ [...] [...] http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/ [...]

]]> By: Garry Golden http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-408 Garry Golden Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:39:10 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-408 I agree w/ your observations Stephen. Grids and centralized power plants are not going to disappear anytime soon - but the likelihood of lower cost distributed power systems seem inevitable given a reasonable time horizon. There are many models for future utility providers to start exploring... A great overview is at: http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Business_Markets_Pricing_News/Why-Today-s-Utilities-May-Soon-Be-Obsolete-and-What-May-Replace-Them-1782.html#blogcomments I agree w/ your observations Stephen. Grids and centralized power plants are not going to disappear anytime soon – but the likelihood of lower cost distributed power systems seem inevitable given a reasonable time horizon. There are many models for future utility providers to start exploring… A great overview is at:

http://www.smartgridnews.com/artman/publish/Business_Markets_Pricing_News/Why-Today-s-Utilities-May-Soon-Be-Obsolete-and-What-May-Replace-Them-1782.html#blogcomments

]]> By: Stephen http://www.garrygolden.net/2010/02/21/future-of-portable-personal-power-via-micro-fuel-cells/comment-page-1/#comment-406 Stephen Mon, 22 Feb 2010 22:13:40 +0000 http://www.garrygolden.net/?p=719#comment-406 I work at a power plant. For the same reason people contract out work on your car or appliance I think that power will be contracted out by individuals from companies. There is will be room for the specialist. But the the grid will become very decentralized and there will be many more players. Conventional power plants are so capital intensive that few individuals or companies can even enter the power market. That may be changing.This will lower the cost of power . I work at a power plant. For the same reason people contract out work on your car or appliance I think that power will be contracted out by individuals from companies. There is will be room for the specialist. But the the grid will become very decentralized and there will be many more players. Conventional power plants are so capital intensive that few individuals or companies can even enter the power market. That may be changing.This will lower the cost of power .

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